According to an announcement posted in Q-Notes, the LGBT
newspaper of the Carolinas, there will be a peaceful protest outside of our
FIRE Church services this Sunday morning, August 26th. I am presently in Canada
and will not be there to greet them, but this is my personal word of welcome on
behalf of our entire leadership team and congregation.
On
behalf of FIRE Church, I want to extend to you the warmest welcome and let you
know that we are thrilled that you are here with us on Sunday. We have been
praying for you for a long time!
As
always, you will only meet with love, kindness, and respect from the FIRE
leadership and congregants, and we proclaim to you once again the amazing grace
of God. Jesus died to save us from our sins, heterosexual and homosexual alike,
and only in Him can we find forgiveness, redemption, and transformation. Jesus
alone is the Healer, Savior, Deliverer, and Transformer.
It
has been my personal joy to have shared meals together with the last two
editors of Q-Notes as well as to have given an open mic to the past editor of
Q-Notes so he could share his own story in our church building. Our doors are
open to you, our hearts are open to you, and as Jesus gave Himself for your
salvation and wellbeing, we are committed to following in His footsteps.
Should
you ever want to have an open forum for the purpose of mutually respectful
discussion on the issues that divide us, we would gladly host that event in our
church building or participate in one of yours. Let us know what
we can do to help make that happen.
If
you are looking for Rev. Flip Benham, as per your announcement, he has an
independent ministry in the city and is not affiliated with FIRE. I trust he
will be happy to meet you face to face as well.
Thank you Michael.
ReplyDelete"If there come unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed. For he that bids him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds." 2nd John 10-11
ReplyDeletePlease read the above verses carefully, Dr.Brown, and let the Holy Spirit speak to your heart if giving an 'open microphone' to a homosexual activist within your church building is perhaps 'crossing the line' in your evangelization efforts. You are not going to 'their turf' to preach your message- THEY DON'T WANT YOU ON THEIR TURF! You are allowing them- people who are rejecting of the Gospel- to come INTO YOUR HOME and preach THEIR message! Not only is this action extremely NAIVE, but it's also ignoring the clear message and warning given by in Scripture by the Apostle John in his 2nd epistle! I might ask- just WHO is evangelizing WHOM here?
I agree..
DeleteAndy, are you telling me that every single person who you go to church with agrees 100% with the doctrine that you perceive to be correct? I highly doubt that.
Deletejohn was referring to anyone who denies that Jesus did not come in the flesh. nothing to do with homosexuality
DeleteAndy,
DeleteSince you like quotes, I suggest you check out
Matthew 7:1-6:
"1Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
6Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you."
(King James Version)
AND
"He among you who is without sin, cast the first stone."
John 8:7
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You see, it is easy to think that we are doing God's work by instantly judging those who are sinners in our eyes, but we fail to realize that we are all sinners in God's eyes and are all equally guilty.
Christ taught of inclusion, not exclusion. By singling out people who we think are "sinners" and judging them we are doing a disservice to the message of Christ and are disgracing the very faith that we claim to believe.
Take those quotes to heart, they were spoken by Christ. Judge not, and you will not be judged. Condemn not, and you will not be condemned, forgive and you will be forgiven.
I certainly agree with the major points you are making, but I'm curious to know if you take Jesus' own words (from the very same chapter you quoted) as being "inclusive" as well: "Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few."(Matt 7:13-14)
DeleteTaking scripture out of context is what creates false doctrines in the first place, Andy. How about we post all the applicable scriptures there.
DeleteWhen do we judge as Christians:
DeleteFor what have I to do with judging those also who are outside (non-Christians)? Do you not judge those who are inside (Christians)? But those who are outside (non-Christians) God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.” --I Corinthians 5:12-13
However, in order to avoid hypocrisy:
'take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s (Christians) eye.' --Matthew 7:5
i like your quote and I agree. As far as those who are arguing the judge not.... come on people. We are allowed to choose what we will and will not be partakers of. We should choose to abstain from the appearance of evil. i.e. allowing a homosexual to have thi mic and pulpit in your place of worship. Lets not over do the love one another thing here and defile a holy place of God.
DeleteVery good point!!! It is one thing to love the PERSON for Christ, but another to accept their doctrine. In the gay community, it makes no difference how much you say you care about gay people, person by person. If you don't agree with their lifestyle, it's the same thing, (to them) as saying you hate them. They will accept NOTHING apart from TOTAL capitulation to the G/L cause.
DeleteSo here's a question:
DeleteJesus spent the majority of his ministry with the people that needed him the most - sinners, tax collectors, prostitutes, sick and those in need of salvation and relief from their strife.
For those among you who think you to be so high and mighty above all by thinking you know who God glorifies and who he despises, answer me this: If Jesus were here right now, do you think he would deny the gay community the right to speak and be heard in his house? Would he deny them access to the House of God, shun them, treat them as unequal?
If any of you read the Gospel, the answer to that question would surely be NO.
Here's another passage to remind you of Jesus' real feelings towards those that think they are gracious in God's eyes:
Matthew 12:35-37
35. A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure beings forth evil things.
36. But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgement.
37. For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.
Even if Jesus found people to be troubled, sinful or in need of someone to accept them, Jesus would, even if they were sinners in God's eyes, because he knew they needed God's love the most.
By denying people, regardless of race, creed, religion or sexual orientation the right to speak and be heard, you are going against what Jesus taught about forgiveness, love and acceptance.
"Do unto others as you would have do unto you."
Your point is well taken. Jesus went to where the sinners were and treated them kindly and often they were transformed by the power of God and repented. The question here is whether or not Jesus would have allowed them to enter the synagogue and proclaim the virtues of their sin. Can you imagine Jesus allowing a prostitute to stand before the congregation and explain how great prostitution is and how it is just misunderstood by those who follow God's laws? How about a crooked tax collector standing up and explaining how overcharging people and taking their money is perfectly acceptable? I don't mean to argue, but Jesus was exclusive at times as was appropriate. I applaud Dr. Brown's spirit and efforts. I would just be cautious about what messages are proclaimed from within the church building.
DeleteThank you for being an excellent example for how we Christians ought to present ourselves to the lost, even to those who actively oppose the Gospel.
DeleteAndy, we had a public forum a few years ago called at our church called, "Can You Be Gay and Christian?" No one from the LGBT side accepted our invitation, but when the one young gentleman whom I mentioned came to the meeting, he was allowed to share his story, and at the end of the night our students reached out to him and even prayed for him. It was a wonderful opportunity for us to share God's love and truth with him. You should rejoice!
ReplyDeleteI note that you carefully side stepped the Scripture reference- the word of God- which I cited to you from 2nd John. You are inviting someone into your 'home' who not only does not bring the Gospel of Christ, he is 'preaching' another viewpoint, on an equal 'playing field' with the Gospel, which YOU have provided to him. Exactly HOW is this DIFFERENT from the warning given by the Apostle John?
DeleteAndy, what in the world are you talking about? I've offered to publicly debate people on these issues, just as Paul publicly debated who the Messiah was in the synagogues -- which meant that people heard both sides of the issue. I didn't "carefully side step" the Scripture reference -- I do NOT side step God's Word, whatever you're implying -- but it had nothing to do with this blog whatsoever, and I wasn't about to get off track with it. Protesters will be standing outside our building this morning, and they will be met with God's love and the truth of the gospel. Do you differ with that? We offered to have public debate on relevant issues in the past. Do you differ with that? And if someone came to my house preaching a false gospel claiming to be a true believer I would not welcome that person as a brother and send that person on his way with blessing and financial help.
DeleteWhat troubles me, to be candid, is that rather than rejoicing that we have an opportunity to demonstrate Jesus to a people who think we hate them, you try to accuse us of violating Scripture.
Dr. B, the very same thing troubles me brother. Shalom and strength and wisdom to you!
DeleteJ
Dear Andy:
DeleteYou can be "right" and entirely miss Christ's heart for people. The Pharisees were excellent at this. It angered Jesus. I have two larger points though.
(1) It is shocking to me how shocked people are about Dr. B's attempts to offer redemptive grace to a gay man, while 40-80% of evangelical males are engaging in internet pornography. We homogenize the sins we are comfortable with, but cannot even imagine mere hospitality shown to a young gay man. There is a disturbing disconnect between our ability to see others' sins and miss our own.
(2) We so often turn against one another. You and Dr. Brown have an identical theological or doctrinal view of gay relationships. You should trust that Dr. Brown is simply allowing the Gospel to flow through him to reach a young person who likely has a history of teasing, rejection and exclusion. The ministry of inclusion becomes the extension of the Gospel to such people. Jesus did this all the time, and it ticked off the religious leaders of his day.
In Christ,
Bill
That is awesome Dr Brown! I remember seeing so many from the LGBT people coming and getting saved in the past. But I noticed that a lot of people did not know how to respond to folks without making them feel weird and outcast. Jesus never did that! That just cannot be! The past is the past and everyone who has sinned, (that is everybody, right?), has to drop their shame and guilt and move on. It is time we stop treating some differently than others. It is time we stop branding some types of sin with the modern version of the scarlet letter A, while nice churchy sin like haughty attitudes and outright hatefulness are ignored.
ReplyDeleteDr. Brown, you must be extremely careful like Andy has stated not to cross the line by giving the homosexuals a platform to spread their agenda, they have been given enough of a voice. What comes to mind is Greg Johnson from (Standing Together Ministries) and Robert Millet or Richard Mouw and Robert Millet and then there is Alan Chambers with "gay Christians", all have although maybe, with good intent, been used by the enemy, to justify Mormonism and homosexuality... just be careful brother,that's all I have to say God bless, Suzanne
ReplyDeleteSuzanne,
DeleteWhat sort of agenda do you think the gay community preaches? Tolerance? Love? Respect? Acceptance? Sounds like the kind of things Christianity teaches.
And since Christians seem to know the Bible so well, may I remind you, Suzanne of this well known passage:
"For ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God."
- Romans 3:23
I just wish people would stop treating the gay community like they are spreading some disease. Homosexuals aren't going to infect you if they breathe near you. They are humans, people just like you and me who have decided a different path for themselves than what we consider "normal." It isn't for anyone but GOD to judge people for their actions and decisions on this Earth, not us. How can we bring God's love to people when we judge them? How? Is that not giving people the impression that Christianity is hateful?
Jesus said
"A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another."
John 13:34-35
Need I say more?
With all due respect and not to argue, but the gay community preaches that marriage should be redefined in opposition to what the Word of God tells us. It is not judgmental to point this out at all, especially when asked. The point of the discussion is not whether all people should be shown love or not. It is obvious that they should. The question is whether gay activists should be given a forum within the church to proclaim their views. I would suggest a neutral site for any such discussions lest, God forbid, one from the church congregation be swayed from the truth.
Delete...just an addendum on tolerance; it is easy to say that one preaches tolerance, but it is an entirely different thing to put it into practice. In my opinion, the Chik-Fil-A flap illustrated that those who proclaim tolerance, i.e. gay activists, aren't always the tolerant people they might believe themselves to be. I have expressed disagreement with their positions in a kind manner and have been called a bigot, a racist, and have been compared to Hitler. In my opinion, those expressions do not seem to represent tolerance.
DeleteWhile I see your point and appreciate your comment, we must ask ourselves where the homosexual community got that negative attitude towards Christianity from.
DeleteWhen you are gay and you have seen homosexuals get treated like a lower subspecies for a great many years by Christians, you instantly have this attitude.
Look at Chik-fil-A, as anti-gay as I've seen a company publicly proclaim themselves to be, who proclaim hate by preaching intolerance through their ads. You would let these people speak in front of a church congregation?
The point is that nobody is spared the mark of sin, yet all are welcomed into the house of God. People that cheat on their wives, beat their kids, steal money from their relatives, promote hatred through intolerance all go to church, all shake hands with other members, all grab a microphone and speak, and all claim themselves to by "saved" by the grace of God, even though they repeatedly break his laws and Christ's laws for us.
This world is full of sinners, and to deny people the right to speak in defense of their chosen lifestyle is hypocrisy considering those speaking out are sinners themselves.
The problem here is that you are throwing out the clear teaching of Scripture, which categorically forbids homosexual practice, and creating a Jesus who accepts people but does not change them or call them to repentance. As for Chick-fil-A being anti-gay -- please! That is just ugly rhetoric. Chick-fil-A is pro-family and biblically based in its values, but society has shifted so dramatically that do what is right makes you a target.
Delete1. Scripture categorically denies a lot of things, many of which are ignored by the majority of people. Homosexuality is lambasted in Romans by Paul, but nowhere in the Gospels does Jesus say anything about it if I am not mistaken. Paul also attacks a lot of the things that we people struggle with every day. But anti-gay Christians just mention homosexuality with such veracity that it seems as though that is all the Bible prohibits.
DeleteAs far as Jesus goes, Jesus first accepted people, then through his words of wisdom and grace, changed people without forcing it through hate and ostracism. Jesus changed people through love and acceptance, by inspiring them to change their life. Christians would be better off following his lead and love first, instead of judge first. Quoting Romans and then telling them their lifestyle will land them in Hell turns them away from Christianity and therefor they will reject God. Do you think God wants people to reject him? Christians are supposed to be role models for the message Jesus came down here to deliver to all of us, it is not our role to drive people away from him.
2. Chick-fil-A is anti-gay, and they are a restaurant. Who cares whether your customer is gay or not? They pay money, you serve them food. Are they next going to put "gay only" sections in their restaurants to segregate gays from non gays? And who says gay people aren't pro family? With all those "normal" people out there having kids and abandoning them to the world or putting them up for adoption because sex was funner than the consequences, here we have gay couples adopting these kids.
1. You are quite mistaken in your statements about the Scriptures. Are you willing to hear the truth? Then watch these two videos: http://coalitionofconscience.askdrbrown.org/resources/2007_lecture_monday.html and http://coalitionofconscience.askdrbrown.org/resources/2008_lecture_monday.html.
DeleteAs for the example of Jesus, yes, that's why I and other followers of Jesus seek to practice: We reach out to people where they are, without condoning their sins, offering them forgiveness and redemption and calling them to repentance. It is the NT model through and through. But that does mean that we don't stand up for the life of the unborn, for example, since that would offend people who abort babies? Obviously not.
2. What you're saying about Chick-fil-A is absolutely false and, candidly, completely nonsense. They have gay employees and they serve everyone who comes into their restaurant. What in the world are you talking about? And they donate money to fine Christian organizations. As for gay couples, however loving they might be, they cannot provide a child with a mother and a father, which is certainly God's best and what He intended.
I will first address the Chick-fil-A thing because I have a lot to say about the scriptures...
Delete1. Please explain to me how come over the last few months I have seen many advertisements that can be considered "anti-gay" in such a way that people have protested to boycott the company, forcing the company to make a change in its advertising methods to avoid losing its customer base?
http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-how-much-money-chick-fil-a-gives-to-anti-gay-groups-2012-7
Yes, there are gay people that work at Chick-fil-A, and many of them have an interesting take on what it is like to have people tell them they are glad Chick-fil-A "hates queers":
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/01/chick-fil-a-anti-gay-controversy-employees-speak-out_n_1729968.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-news-blog/2012/jul/19/chick-fil-a-comes-out-as-anti-gay
http://www.minyanville.com/sectors/consumer/articles/chick-fil-a-chick-fil-ga/7/18/2012/id/42560
To come out publicly and declare that gay marriage is wrong and that "we" only support marriage as defined in the bible is anti-gay. Because if you weren't anti-gay, then why would you give a hoot if two gay people wanted to have a child?
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2. Scriptures - This one bugs me. It bugs me because I watched bits of the links you posted (you are a good speaker, BTW) and you attempted to justify the Bible's apparent position on homosexuality by saying the Bible specifically targets homosexuals on a few occasions, even in the New Testament Gospels.
(19)For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies.
(20)These are the things which defile a man, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man."
- Matthew 15:19-20
The verse in Mark is comparable. Now these verses clump homosexuality into "fornications", which encompasses a huge range of sexual sin, from sex before marriage, masturbation (according to some religions), random sex with random people, prostitution, strippers, pornography, sex with dead people, sex with animals, bondage, and the list goes on. If we are to assume all of these things are wrapped up into one neat package, then we are to assume that homosexuality is not more evil than any other perverse sexual act under the term "fornication".
If this were to be taken into account, then the problem of sexual immorality is much larger than homosexuality. Since the writers of the Biblical text seem to wrap all sexual sin together for the most part, then it would be fair to say that a guy who cheats on his wife, someone who masturbates to pornography, someone who has sex out of wedlock and someone who hires a hooker for a night are all guilty of the same sexual immorality as described in the Biblical texts.
The Book of Romans, Chapter 1 mentions unrighteousness and after listing the specific homosexual act that is bad, goes on to list a myriad of wickedness that God detests, never singling out homosexuality as something that should be raised above other sins.
In conclusion, although Christians like to single out homosexuality, especially since homosexuality is one of the BIGGEST issues of debate in modern times, we must not forget that, according to Biblical texts, God holds homosexuality in as much contempt as all other sins, and since we are all guilty of sin and fall short of the glory of God as dictated in the Book of Romans, we must look to ridding the world of all sin, not just homosexual sin.
For those who stand there and curse homosexuality are hypocrites, for they deny their own sin and focus their energy on reminding others of theirs. What they need to do is listen to Jesus when he said to "remove the plank from your own eye before removing the speck of dust from your brother's eye."
Sorry to preach, and I know you will disagree, but I just am sick of people forgetting how much evil and sin exists in this world that comes from those who claim to be enlightened.
Thanks for your comments, and I do hope you're willing to listen with an open mind.
Delete1) With regard to Chick-fil-A, again, you're seriously off base. First, your previous comments about not serving gay people there were completely ludicrous and the main thing I was responding to. Of course, you have no defense for those comments. And Chick-fil-A is a fine Christian-based company with biblical values, which does not make it anti-gay -- unless God and the Word are "anti-gay." (God and His Word are anti-homosexual practice.) And there has advertising has not changed. They are trying to sell chicken! What happened is that gay activists targeted them and launched an ugly attack. That's the issue. As for CEO's and companies, Starbucks is openly and proudly pro-homosexual, as is the CEO of Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, etc. Where are all the protests against them? It seems these days you're only allowed to hold one point of view, which is quite bigoted and unfair.
2) You should really watch the videos in their entirety (and thanks for the compliment). You'll find them helpful. What you miss is that my issue (and I speak for other conservative Christians) is NOT that homosexuality is worse than any other sin. In fact, for decades, I preached against sexual sins from an exclusively heterosexual POV, and that remains a focus of my ministry: sexual purity. My issue is with homosexual activism, which is the greatest threat to religious liberty and freedoms of conscience and speech today. That has come knocking at our door, and that's why we respond. Until you grasp that, you will be punching at the air.
1. Chick-fil-A may be a fine Christian organization, but when they tout themselves as such, they invite the kind of crazy opinions and feelings where customers feel they have the right to say they are glad that the restaurant is against homosexuality, and there shouldn't be a religious stance when it comes to what you sell to the public. Like you said, they are trying to sell chicken. There might need to be a philosophy about separating church and restaurant.
DeleteThe fact is we have seen a lot of ads put out by Chick-fil-A that are not inclusive of everyone to sell a product, they are intended to inform the world that they are pro Christian and anti-gay. Now when I say anti-gay, I'm not saying they will go out like the Westboro psychos and stand on street corners shouting "God hates fags" while using biblical passages that have NOTHING to do with homosexuality, but as a restaurant that wants to be profitable and respected as a good quality family chain, they have a responsibility to ensure that they do not ostracize anyone, regardless of faith or sexual orientation.
As far as me being off base, I get my opinions from what I see on TV, read in the papers and from the ads Chick-fil-A has put out there.
As for the other companies, I don't recall them creating ads that specifically target pro-homosexuality or anti-family stances. They advertise their product. If you know of any advertising that refutes that statement, please let me know so I can correct my point of view.
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2. I know you have not separated homosexuality from other sins and I think your speech and tolerance for the subject matter should be praised, as many preachers and ministers would shout about burning in Hell and God's hate for homosexuals instead of preaching tolerance.
That being said, I also appreciate your views about homosexual activism, and want to thank you for clarifying that.
Thanks again for your comments.
Delete1) Can you give me one example of Chick-fil-A taking out public ad about their family values? I've never seen one or heard of one. What happened is that they got attacked by gay activists for privately giving money to various Christian organizations -- a ridiculous attack on them -- and then, in an interview with a Baptist publication, the head of the company said that yes, the company stood for family values and in a radio interview, he reiterated his views. That was it. They issued one press release making clear the biblical values they have held to and then said that they leave things to the political world to work things out and they went back to their focus on having fine fast-food restaurants. How can you object to that? And how can you call that "anti-gay"? I do appreciate your willingness to correct your point of view, so let's start with showing me ads they put out to push their biblical values, OK? Thanks!
As for other CEO's, actually, they have been very vocal about their support for homosexuality, making public statements and going on record with where they stand. How about this statement from Starbucks that legalizing same-sex "marriage" is "core to who we are and what we value"? That's 10 times stronger than anything Chick-fil-A said on the other side, yet people are praising Starbucks and trashing Chick-fil-A. How twisted.
2. All clear, and again, thanks.
I agree dr brown, if we don't reach out how can we point them in the right direction? Didn't Jesus eat with sinners, some Christians are just to proud to be warm and caring about others, whoever they might be.
ReplyDeleteI think also we must not believe Gods power to be lessened by what we feel or think. Gods word wont return void and I believe that an open discussion is a fabulous forum for Gods word, love and power to be released. Great miracles in the lives of the LGBT community and also christians who need to learn how to deal with this growing issue, will take place. Dr. Brown I will support you in prayer and agreement!
ReplyDeleteI love lesbians and gays as the Jesus loves them as well and died for them. But I have to also remind them by God's love and grace that their sexual practices are hated by God.
ReplyDeleteIt's not easy to reach out these people. Only by God's power we can win them to Christ. And I always believe "God is sovereign."
I think it's truly telling that nobody has quoted the words of Jesus with respect to those who participate in LGBT practices. The traditional scriptures that convince people that God abhors gay persons come from the Old Testament which for Christians was superseded by the Gospel of Jesus.
ReplyDeleteEvery one of us is a hypocritical sinner in our own way.
Thanks for your comment. I would be happy to quote Jesus' words about sexual purity and God's plan for marriage as the union of a man and a woman, along with His teachings that take the ethic of the Old Testament laws and bring them to a higher standard. That's part of the Gospel of Jesus too! And the NT universally presents marriage as the union of a man and woman and condemns homosexual practice as well. So, your first point is incorrect.
DeleteSecondly, are you saying that because none of us are perfect that we can have no moral standards? That we cannot speak against other things that are wrong? Please be kind of enough to clarify.
What do you expect from them? You speak out against them they respond with boycotts. Oh well. I went to a muscial held by an Orchestra within the LGBT community in Seattle WA a couple years ago. My cousin is part of their musicals they hold each year. And the first time I went they actually played Christian music along with other types of Christmas music. Then the second time in a different part of the year, they played this film depicting a 'right wing Preacher' who was evil. In a 1900's type fashion, where the man saves the woman from the train tracks. Yet, this was a manly Mounty saving his feminite boyfried. It was offensive. Me and my Dad are Hebrews, we're Christian. We sat quietly. But when we left we vowed to never return!
ReplyDeleteIf they came to my congregation, I wouldn't meet them warmly. I would hold a debate right then and there.
I agree with Andy's point of view. I think the problem I see here is that we are deviating from a simple command that the Lord gave in Acts the 1st chapter to go into the world and preach the gospel. He never command us to go into the world and save people . We can not save our selves let alone save people. The blood of Jesus Christ saved us and we must preach the gospel and condern sin to it's fullest and be open to recieve any sinner that repent of their sins.
ReplyDeleteSo, I take it that your position is that we preach the gospel to the lost but do NOT get involved in caring for the poor, working against human trafficking, standing up for the unborn, etc. -- since that would be a deviation from Acts 1:8?
DeleteShalom bro. Brown, I really I am not interested in putting up a debate with you on this subject of allowing gay to take your pulpit so you can win them. I am just only saying amen to what the word of God said which is my obligation. I do believing in helping those in need regardless of their religion or sexuality . I still want to point out that there is no place in the Bible where we are to go and save people as a commition but we are to preach against sin. It a a shame how people try to make the preaching of the gosple sound like hate and make compromise love. Once again it is a shame. I listemn to your testimony of how the Lord save you about a few years ago and had great respect of how you allowed God to use you. I must be honest with you my brother on this subject of gay it look like you want to use God instead of him using you as he should . I am not a writer so bear with my way of writing.
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