tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8337220597557473747.post2259917530468071283..comments2023-05-28T09:31:56.674-04:00Comments on In the Line of Fire: SO, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE "JESUS REVOLUTION"?MLBhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10923601653981115527noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8337220597557473747.post-58595254829884212742012-05-16T07:57:39.913-04:002012-05-16T07:57:39.913-04:00Even if 'a falling away,' how much more th...Even if 'a falling away,' how much more those remaining can be strengthened to do the calling of works set before them to share the Gospel of Jesus the Messiah with increased efficiency, conviction, and devotion to service. Paul concluded something after years of work among the churches and after receiving the direct revelation and charge to go into the nations. II Cor 4:5 tells us that all the self consciousness and personal regard of powerful or heightened or ecstatic religious meeting experience, it was the sober regard of Christ, His Spirit of forbearance, and related service to others which composed the Apostles' own mission and calling. Knowledge of falling away then is not the focus, nor the purpose of insight into the signs of the times for believers; RETURN to strengthen the things which remain, and move with the love of God in Christ toward others is.Climbmountainwayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09097294452456868522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8337220597557473747.post-25450904071260015212012-05-14T09:49:00.233-04:002012-05-14T09:49:00.233-04:00Take back the land from who, and where was it?Take back the land from who, and where was it?The son of manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04743898023859932088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8337220597557473747.post-22727795657621663812012-05-08T18:00:04.107-04:002012-05-08T18:00:04.107-04:00It is prophecy there would be a falling away. It i...It is prophecy there would be a falling away. It is a misunderstanding that this would happen all at once and not generation to generation. The falling away started in the 1920's people. The 1970's was surge. But the surge of secular America was already well entrenched decades earlier.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8337220597557473747.post-35346290164228495662012-05-06T11:37:32.770-04:002012-05-06T11:37:32.770-04:00Over and above Jesus’ identified reports of dubiou...Over and above Jesus’ identified reports of dubious character and indulgence leading each of six churches astray, to get on fresh with the Head of the Body it was the Lord Himself who called them aside to warn, admonish, and state the price of following false expectations for achieving authentic relationship with Him. Associated religious church members had not kept themselves from idols of selfish desire, from false instruction and assumption, and then so aligned conceptual and literal life mission. Having a religious gathering phenomena cake and eating it too was not part and parcel to the Way and Call of the Commission given them, where Jesus soberly told what would happen if current directions were not abandoned for quest of a direct connection priority of pursuit of He Himself in the matters addressed in the most transparent spiritual Revelation given His Body on earth. The Word came from heaven’s efficient personnel to those disregarding heaven’s associated Call to holiness.<br />1) It can be said that these churches were reflections of the world around them.<br />2) It can be said that they had left their first devotion to Jesus Christ and represented something else altogether.<br />3) They were asleep, lulled into their own assumptions, false beliefs, relational confusion, sensuality and desires.<br />4) Jesus, not they themselves, was able to discern in each instance what was leading them away from Him. They were not seeking such information or clarification. It came to them first from the Throne, then via a suffering servant Apostle’s communication. <br />5) Lampstands’ glowing life associated with the family of God founded in Christ’s work was in jeopardy. Apostasy meant disconnection, vanity, sin and deception was replacing what was needful for life.<br />6) False expectations set up each fellowship for a fall, which Jesus did not want to see come to pass, yet in each case the will to fall was freely orchestrated. The liberty of the Sons of God was not in focus, of regard, or being pursued—other reality was in play in the milieu of these fellowships.<br />7) Christ, and He alone, acted to communicate redemptive intention, hope, and the steps needed for repentance, consecration, for realigment with the Commission and Kingdom. Words given the Revelation thereafter showed that this was most serious business for His People.<br />8) Life in the Spirit, of devotion to Christ, and related single eye service needed to come to the forefront of the attention of each and every soul found in these churches or things suffered in the Revelation would become their experience.<br />Christ in us, Christ being formed in us. The love of God shed abroad in our hearts. Looking up from what was transfigured in the interchange of covenants parties seen traversing time and space before them, they saw only Jesus. This was the vital discovery of all past and future covenants of God. One thing greater than all our personal discoveries sought and not has come among us. <br />Now is the day of salvation and adoption. In seeking a No. American Call to Consecration through repentance, we must first counsel to agree to let He Himself address the changes we need to make to be ready for His reengagement, renewal, and return. Let us agree together that we need His voice, interventionm and corrections to make it so. --JH, 5.2012Climbmountainwayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09097294452456868522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8337220597557473747.post-90337089017028890982012-05-06T11:36:25.017-04:002012-05-06T11:36:25.017-04:00Yikes, where are we today? What influences our mi...Yikes, where are we today? What influences our mindset beliefs, assumptions, relationships, and practices? What then has captured our hearts and attention? Do we long for truth, grace, and connection to Jesus, or is something else desired as foremost in our assembling together where we do so? Such churches were ‘blind, deaf, and dumb’, while saying ‘we see’, are we? It stands out in these two chapters of admonition that it took Jesus to assess accurately, it took Jesus to call these mindset practices to task, and Jesus to state their dark price if they continued as they were. Already the handwriting was on the wall for these once glowing fellowships of Christ.<br />Although a good commentary can discuss the issues in each church case in these chapters of the Revelation, can we assume these may have been and may be typical churches still found among the Nations? Why would this end times letter be given us for posterity where the second and third chapter focus primarily on seven churches in the Mediterranean sphere of the Nations’ First Century churches? Have we moved on from their problems? Is the solution with us?<br /><br />Noticed right away are the churches reflections of the societies in which they were located having taken over devotional priority and purity, and the reflection of those cultures mitigating against the integrity of abiding in Christ. Jesus was ready to pull the plug of His witness lampstand glow of heaven’s light and spirit among them. This is sobering of the lens offered in each case where His Name and nature would be removed unless true repentance and realignment with the Head of the Body was practiced. He had not yet given up, but it was getting to be impossible for His Spirit to stay where He was not given actual devotion. All but one of these churches were found apostate. --continued belowClimbmountainwayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09097294452456868522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8337220597557473747.post-64146635195568040912012-05-06T11:34:55.404-04:002012-05-06T11:34:55.404-04:00AN ADMONITION for us from the REVELATION: for alli...AN ADMONITION for us from the REVELATION: for alliance and realignment with the will of the Father [for revival], once knowing His frank assessment of our fellowships’ and related faiths’ state of being, and as sobered by the contexts He gave churches toward the end of the First Century, we need His clarifications of our state of being, and our need of devotional religious life corrections. Six of the seven churches He addressed as vital to maintaining the Commission were in danger of extinction, and were completely not able to be self correcting without the revelations of rebuke given each one. In spite of all we have experienced and known, why should we assume we are superior in self assessment and guidance over His direct approach? Never has the Call been needed more to hear Him, and respond to His remedies in each location of practices as assume at least a labeled regard of the chosen Name. Recall that the lampstands of each church were of a connected witness to He who is the true and chosen witness of the eternal Kingdom of God, in the Messiah.<br />In the Revelation to John, it was not the seven churches which detached for self correction from their own relative and deceptive religious assumptions revealed as sinful relational realities practiced among the people of each assembly. To self assess adequately to next work to plan well to re-achieve realigned godly connections with Jesus, in each case any absorbed deceit of self indulgence would have to become inactive in the mix of their religiously operating mindset. Though the Name of Jesus was being used in their gatherings and practices, as was stemming from their originally planted connection, much else had crept into assumptions, beliefs, relationships, and practices going on which had Jesus ready to pull their plug of past connection with Him. <br /> As Head of his witnessing Body then set in Asia of the Gentile nations all but one church were stated to be unwittingly apostate. Are our assumptions, beliefs, relationships, and practices alike leading us away from a witness of integrity and life maintained in Jesus Christ? Is the price of our present loyalties to these devotions equally as vulnerable to falling away from our relationship with Christ? continued below,Climbmountainwayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09097294452456868522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8337220597557473747.post-45684131056264346862012-05-05T15:32:07.971-04:002012-05-05T15:32:07.971-04:00A sobering admonishment, well focused, well put.A sobering admonishment, well focused, well put.Climbmountainwayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09097294452456868522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8337220597557473747.post-60155715524382062442012-05-05T15:16:56.814-04:002012-05-05T15:16:56.814-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Climbmountainwayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09097294452456868522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8337220597557473747.post-45202442176186469812012-05-05T09:24:55.366-04:002012-05-05T09:24:55.366-04:00A True Word here, a balance between humility and e...A True Word here, a balance between humility and expectancy, for sure. In my own prayers it seems the Lord will accentuate understanding and counsel along with coming visitation and enabling for this Revolution of Redemption. Imagine truly hearing one another's hearts, in care and mutual regard and joy. Israel and young adults are key to fusing Him with Us into One New Man! <br /> <br />The Precious law of liberty is in the mix, the preparation of His Bride, the signs of the times, and a new preference of others over self. He is beginning a new work this year, which will spiral ahead into 2015. It is the season to light our lamps, trim them, and restart the principles of the Commission (learn of Him, share Him, enjoy Him). Don't expect the old experience and models to hold the new and living maturity coming upon us with His Renewal. This visitation renewal will establish the very flavor for the coming Renewal of All Things He and His disciples anticipated of the Kingdom coming to its placement.Climbmountainwayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09097294452456868522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8337220597557473747.post-62858050919498765532012-04-20T11:59:12.182-04:002012-04-20T11:59:12.182-04:00You're quite welcome!You're quite welcome!MLBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10923601653981115527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8337220597557473747.post-28907101012482122822012-04-20T09:55:29.736-04:002012-04-20T09:55:29.736-04:00Now that Church has properly been separated from s...Now that Church has properly been separated from state in not endorsing one candidate, which should have happened a few elections ago, we can begin to decry the moral decay of our nation apart from the political bandwagon. Right now could be the beginning of what you have been looking for, if we band together as the Tribe of Judah (Praise) and cry out for our nation not only in prayer and fasting, but also celebration of what GOD has done for our nation, and will continue to do if we repent!<br />There are a few side issues that can be discussed, such as building the Third Temple in Jerusalem, and what do Mormons actually believe concerning Jesus of Nazareth; but this shouldn't distract from the Main Event: a thrust to Take Back our Land!<br />In Jesus' love and name, Ron David MetcalfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8337220597557473747.post-187287988561489662012-04-19T23:42:06.378-04:002012-04-19T23:42:06.378-04:00Dr. Brown, thanks for the reminder that there are ...Dr. Brown, thanks for the reminder that there are those who have not bowed the knee to Ba'al; that there are still the many who have given over their lives - some to the death - for the Kingdom of Christ. There is much we fail to see, that Army on the surrounding mountain...<br /><br />Thanks for reminding me.Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12470212473565517507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8337220597557473747.post-29131147315551511432012-04-19T14:29:29.267-04:002012-04-19T14:29:29.267-04:00Michelle -- yes, amen, exactly! It blesses me to s...Michelle -- yes, amen, exactly! It blesses me to see grads like you still burning bright, now with your husband, and going for it in the midst of really challenging circumstances. Let's do this!MLBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10923601653981115527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8337220597557473747.post-76811930031228417902012-04-19T14:19:43.985-04:002012-04-19T14:19:43.985-04:00Amen, Dr. Brown!
I remember that trip to The Call ...Amen, Dr. Brown!<br />I remember that trip to The Call DC as a 1st semester student. It was there that God began a supernatural work in my heart that has continued to this day, though not without much testing. And though I live in a largely God-less city and struggle through so much mundane, I am still convinced that we are part of a Jesus Revolution. I can see the signs of it, subtle as they may be. My time at BRSM/FIRE reminds me constantly that I exist to bring Him glory, even if it's just in the "small" things.Michelle Tesauro-Jonesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8337220597557473747.post-34912777039806836492012-04-19T12:56:08.812-04:002012-04-19T12:56:08.812-04:00Should be, "can you explain . . . ?"Should be, "can you explain . . . ?"MLBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10923601653981115527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8337220597557473747.post-59932995023393730132012-04-19T11:35:06.902-04:002012-04-19T11:35:06.902-04:00I am encouraged by this, Dr. Brown!
I believe it!...I am encouraged by this, Dr. Brown! <br />I believe it!<br /><br />Tom WatsonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8337220597557473747.post-45977608541763395812012-04-19T07:48:32.684-04:002012-04-19T07:48:32.684-04:00Good word Dr. Brown!
I see the JR growing rapidl...Good word Dr. Brown! <br /><br />I see the JR growing rapidly here in Italy! it's time! <br /><br />Antonio Morra, ItalyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8337220597557473747.post-85379271472477206032012-04-19T02:43:24.928-04:002012-04-19T02:43:24.928-04:00Dear Anonymous, you explain what you mean by "...Dear Anonymous, you explain what you mean by "running after experience like Fire International?"<br /><br />FIRE International is our organization that helps send our grads around the world to do the very things you're talking about. And that's we mean by a Jesus Revolution -- something the Lord birthed in our hearts as an expression of the Great Commission, being disciples and making disciples.<br /><br />Is it possible that you're misunderstand this post?MLBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10923601653981115527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8337220597557473747.post-39893002316645644842012-04-19T02:19:20.283-04:002012-04-19T02:19:20.283-04:00I don't see the purpose in focusing on this &q...I don't see the purpose in focusing on this "Jesus Revolution" that Fire International was meant to be birthing? or God is meant to be birthing through them if that is the case? <br /><br />The focus we should examine for ourselves is one of fruit - of your life after attending classes, schools, an events, joining a Jesus revolution etc - the measure is clear - disciples and a life as a follow of Jesus that allows you to invite people to follow and be discipled by you? Can we "be" and then "able" to go make disciples in your community? Can you be modeled by the leaders to do this? Is it time to stop resting and start being? Will these opportunities result in making disciples or the same old same old ie. Christian events, consumer expectation running afte experience like Fire International?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8337220597557473747.post-5931328477708596712012-04-19T02:00:17.857-04:002012-04-19T02:00:17.857-04:00I appreciate the honesty and hope in this article ...I appreciate the honesty and hope in this article Dr.Brown. I remember wondering about the new Jesus Revolution while I was at FIRE, it sounded almost too holy and exalted and glorious to even be a part of. But our eyes are on Him and He who promised is faithful. I can see evidences of God stirring all over. The exciting thing for me is just to be faithful and rest in Him, stepping into the opportunities he opens up. I love hearing the reports of what God is still doing in NC. God be with us.davidhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07749058150551412557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8337220597557473747.post-73191565932683959762012-04-19T00:54:48.488-04:002012-04-19T00:54:48.488-04:00Steve, you're quite welcome. Last night, I beg...Steve, you're quite welcome. Last night, I began to feel the burden to write this, and when I went to post it on your new Facebook page, I looked at the date (I often forget that!), and lo and behold, it was April 18th, the official day of the launching of your site. On with it! May the harvest come and may we prepare even now to receive it, beginning with hearts burning with love for a lost and dying generation.MLBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10923601653981115527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8337220597557473747.post-10403709038947634162012-04-19T00:35:38.131-04:002012-04-19T00:35:38.131-04:00If we really want to make an impact in the world w...If we really want to make an impact in the world with your one life and that includes Fire International - it is not rocket science, Jesus already gave us a plan for all of us. It is not revival, not a book, latest conference, not a school - it is not looking back at the past (dates and missed expectations) - it is very simple - make disciples! (Do you know how?) Focus on this ONE thing. Do nothing else, expect nothing else. Master this one thing as Jesus showed us and taught us. It is Jesus plan.<br /><br />I challenge all Christians to listen to all the video parts of this message from David Platt – search on You Tube for “David Platt Make Disciples #1” It has changed many peoples lives in the right direction, it might inspire some changes and focus? <br /><br />We are all off doing the other stuff - feeding programs, big ministries around events, schools, etc expecting, assuming we are making disciples. Jesus never told us to do these things. If we focus on just making disciples the church forms not the other way round. Making disciples is dirty work, it is slow work, and no one sees the results for few years e.g. about 3 years and a half years in Jesus example.<br /><br />Revival happens when we obey Jesus's command to make missional disciples - period, there is no need to go searching for some event, or moment, this thing called a 'Jesus revolution' . It is not needed. We have a discipling problem in the church more then anything else, fix this and you will have revival Mr Brown and you will have my respect (not that that matters).<br /><br />Are your students trained to make disciples? Is this the focus, the culture, the language, the expectation? To model you as a discipler , a fisher of men? Jesus was focused on this - making them fishers of men (not revival meetings, his large meetings were few). He invited them into his life, taught them by example, gave them opportunity to watch him and then sent them to try on their own, and in the end before he leaves all he tells them to do is the same - to go make other disciples? <br /><br />Discipleship means living with you, hanging out with you - having a life worth following/modeling. Do we allow them to hang out with us home, to go shopping with them at the mall - to do normal stuff together. <br /><br />I was brought up in the AOG, our pastor fell to a sex scandals, all the prophecies of changing our nation never happened or over my life. I was naive back then for sure. I was never taught how to make disciples, I was taught I was to be a pastor then I was special and had God’s favor.<br /><br />What if all the 400 youth in my church (I was a leader) who had so much excitement, where trained (and sent) to make disciples ie life on life, do as I do (not a silly 10 week program, or camp or bible college) we would have revival from all the hundreds of thousands coming into the kingdom. If making disciples was taught to them from the front, if it was the expectation of their lives not big events, outreach and helping the poor, but discipleship.<br /><br />Jesus made it pretty simple (Luke 10), go look for a person of peace. Once you find a person of peace stay with them, pray for them (disciple them). He never said go make these things called church and build up a bunch of volunteers, he said find persons of peace and make them leaders and send them out and I will build my church. We do it around the other way and then sit around in our man made churches expecting revival. <br /><br />Jesus never said wait around and have amazing spirit filled events expecting his spirit to do all the work. He said the harvest is white ... go find the people I have prepared for you, teach them all I have commanded you (not the bible college or the pastor) YOU cause you should have been trained as a disciple to live our the life and ministry of Jesus by now (the life you have modeled).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8337220597557473747.post-58507797433243841072012-04-18T23:09:48.230-04:002012-04-18T23:09:48.230-04:00I guess I never saw any of the things spoken at BR...I guess I never saw any of the things spoken at BRSM as failed prophesies because so little time has actually passed. I will never forget David Wilkerson's very specific prophecy about the Japanese earthquake that took 20 years to come to pass. In any case, thank you for your thoughts. As a former student, I am still grateful for my time there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8337220597557473747.post-11897007642947469942012-04-18T22:47:41.506-04:002012-04-18T22:47:41.506-04:00I appreciate you Dr. Brown and am honored to be ap...I appreciate you Dr. Brown and am honored to be apart of this school for I am honored to glorify Christ at any cost, and I know Fire School of Ministry does just that. The revolution is taking place and God is being glorified. May we see this in a greater level in our genetation. On with the revolutionGabehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02885898273975798328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8337220597557473747.post-58587382775839951892012-04-18T22:37:20.345-04:002012-04-18T22:37:20.345-04:00I got saved in the great move of God in the North ...I got saved in the great move of God in the North East which brought many of the serious believers of my age group to the Lord from 1999-2002. I didn't know much of anything about Brownsville in 1999 when I got saved and we didn't really recognize the supernaturalness of that time period until people stopped getting saved in droves (we thought that was normal). I can now see that as part of something God was doing for a generation globally - rapidly gathering us. But for what? What's next and what is so great that God would use these amazing things as the precursor to the new thing? What's next for those of us who are ruined for anything else and need to see His Kingdom come By Life of By Death?Geoffrey J. Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14781793145330889385noreply@blogger.com